It was a Grand Old Party -GOP RIP
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It was a Grand old Party, but now the party is over. President George H W Bush did much damage to the conservative movement and the Republican party by his squishy blue blood politics. When a Republican raises taxes or enacts left wing social legislation Conservatives are blamed for it, even if that Republican is not a conservative.
Still, the party was able to overcome these negatives until the election of the son George W. Bush. Now, the movement is reeling from a widespread belief in Republican corruption, abandonment of small government principals, and a war which was fought incompetently for three years. But the party leadership has now put the last nail in the coffin of the Stupid party.
Let there be no mistake, if this abomination of an immigration bill goes through, the following will happen. (1) Republicans will loose all credibility and their base will abandon them in droves. (2) Democratic dominance for a generation or so will be enshrined into the electorate by a demographic tsunami. (3) Close to twenty million (the real figure) illegals and their children and parents will be eligible for subsidized housing, food stamps, welfare, in-state tuition, and after working just six quarters they will be vested into social security.
There is no possible way we can afford this without MASSIVE tax increases and probably deliberate inflation of the economy.
This is the party that ended slavery, It was the party of the progressive movement of the early twentieth century, and it was the party that lead the way in the cold war, but now the party is over.
I suppose something new will rise from the political wilderness, a tiny party (I hope) dedicated to fiscal conservatism and a sort of neo libertarianism that really dies believe in limited government. And who knows, maybe after two generations of Democratic control has turned us into a nearly bankrupt European-like multi-cultural mess, the people will be willing to elect that party to try and clean it up. That’s probably the best that can happen.
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Yeah, we can probably be confident that the numbers of new immigrants or of legalized illegals will be much greater than what we've been told.
I think we should mention the two best things Bush has done as President. We can probably count on a few decades of solid jurisprudence from these two. Unfortunately, however, it will likely end as it has before, with us being one vote short of a sane Supreme Court, and that is where it will stay. So we'll probably have many brillliant dissents from Alito and Roberts to look forward to over the years!
As to immigration, I will forever be at a loss as to explain how conservatives actually think that the GOP can even break even with immigrants so long as high levels of immigration persist. It makes no sense, as mass immigration reinforces pretty much every factor that makes immigrants favor Democrats in the first place. Unfortunately I don't think they'll remove their heads from the sand until we we lose Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado, and Texas becomes a battleground state.
If someone would have told me 7 years ago that the conservative brand would be tarnished to the point that Bush has tarnished it, I wouldn't have believed them. The most bitter part about that is that he's mainly done so through the pursuit of decidedly un-conservative policies, whether its his leftwing immigration policies or spreading democracy in the middle east.
In both Arizona and New Hampshire (I've lived in both) the problem that makes both states purple trending red isn't Mexicans. In NH it's immigration from MA. In AZ it's coming from CA.
Liberals move away from the high-tax, high cost, business hating states to lower tax, lower cost more business friendly neighboring states and are too dumb to realize that their favorite liberal policies are WHY their former states are that way. And then they work diligently to wreck paradise.
I want a fence and claymore mines and US Marines on the border between AZ & CA. Rounding up and deporting Californians who aren't registered Republicans also works for me.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
You hit on a huge irony. Many Californians are migrating to numerous adjoining states for economic and social reasons. But, everywhere they go, they want to change the local and state governments to be more like California. States being hit particularly hard are Washington, Oregon, and Nevada. Oregon tried to figure a way to stem the flow of California migration,
but there was nothing that they could legally do.
I wonder if earlier waves of white Californians who fled their state might have helped the GOP in surrounding states, especially if a large numbers of them left as a result of the post-Cold War military downsizing.
helped the GOP in any state they've migrated to. If anything, the white ones are the worst.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
...as it relates to whites who have left California over the last decade or so, but I seem to remember reading about how many left after the military started downsizing after the Cold War. If that is so, then that was probably a largely Republican cohort.
But, my memory may be off on that, so I won't say anymore about it.
Sadly, it's not just the GOP which is going to suffer from the US's complete inability to discuss immigration issues in a rational manner (the same problem prevails on this side of the pond). As a shameless promotion for my first RedState blog post, I compiled a picture of the social future that the US is moving towards, here:
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/stilichio/2007/may/19/the_facts_on_mexican...
The lowdown is, that unless you stop this bill, the US underclass will expand massively. But you probably already knew that. Still, the census data cited is very useful to bash amnesty proponents over the head with.
You are right. A reasoned, rational discussion of immigration policy is almost impossible in the West. You can always count on someone poisoning the discussion by throwing around bogus charges of racism/xenophobia, and/or infecting the discourse with nauseating platitudes. In a sane environment, it is those who throwing around racist charges who would be ostracized, and anyone who chimes in with 'we're a nation of immigrants' or a reference to the Statue of Liberty would be disregarded because such blather generally indicates how little they have to say in terms of substance.
Worst of all is the increasing tendency of 'conservatives' to engage in both of these shameful tactics. With the racist/xenophobic charges, it seems to originate from feelings of guilt (a generally liberal trait) and pathetic attempts to show one's non-racist bonafides and credentials. With the platitude drivel, it is often done in a futile attempt to cushion oneself against charges of racism before they say something that might actually be conservative.
Whatever the case, it is a sad state of affairs, and it plays completely into the Left's hands.
You are right. A reasoned, rational discussion of immigration policy is almost impossible in the West. You can always count on someone poisoning the discussion by throwing around bogus charges of racism/xenophobia, and/or infecting the discourse with nauseating platitudes. In a sane environment, it is those who throwing around racist charges who would be ostracized, and anyone who chimes in with 'we're a nation of immigrants' or a reference to the Statue of Liberty would be disregarded because such blather generally indicates how little they have to say in terms of substance.
Worst of all is the increasing tendency of 'conservatives' to engage in both of these shameful tactics. With the racist/xenophobic charges, it seems to originate from feelings of guilt (a generally liberal trait) and pathetic attempts to show one's non-racist bonafides and credentials. With the platitude drivel, it is often done in a futile attempt to cushion oneself against charges of racism before they say something that might actually be conservative.
Whatever the case, it is a sad state of affairs, and it plays completely into the Left's hands.
...but the demograhic tsunami of which you speak is likely to be 40 million or more. The tiny party won't be able to have any effect except dissent within the framework of one party control.
A suggestion: the 2.5 trillion floated as the cost figure is at best a minimum. Compare that with the purchase of 20 million tickets back to various homelands at an average cost of $400 -8 billion. Fiscally responsible and then let them emigrate LEGALLY.
Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triump of evil is for good men to do nothing"